Aliyev and Pashinyan meet with Blinken, clash on Munich Security Conference panel

Aliyev and Pashinyan meet with Blinken, clash on Munich Security Conference panel

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan meets with Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev in a meeting facilitated by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference on 18 February 2023 © Official Photo

Unannounced until the last moment, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken yesterday facilitated and mediated a long overdue meeting between Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev on the sidelines of the annual Munich Security Conference in Germany. With Blinken were Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Karen Donfried and newly appointed Senior Advisor for Caucasus Negotiations, Louis L. Bono.

Aliyev and Pashinyan had not met since Russian President Vladimir Putin in Sochi convened a trilateral summit in Sochi on 31 October. Attempts to facilitate another by European Council President Charles Michel on 7 December were aborted when Pashinyan reportedly attempted to change the negotiation format by insisting on the presence of French President Emmanuel Macron. Armenia claims that this was agreed upon after the 6 October meeting in Prague though there is so far nothing to support this, including in statements even from Paris.

Little is known about the substance of the meeting with Blinken, but it was a first for the U.S. to organise a meeting of the Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders. Previously, the U.S. Secretary of State had only hosted the two foreign ministers, Ararat Mirzoyan and Jeyhun Bayramov, while National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan facilitated a meeting between Armenian Security Council Secretary Armen Grigoryan and Azerbaijani Presidential Advisor Hikmet Hajiyev on 27 September in Washington D.C..

All six officials – Aliyev, Pashinyan, Bayramov, Mirzoyan, Grigoryan, and Hajiyev – constitute the various negotiation formats led by the West. Their presence at yesterday’s meeting with Blinken therefore arguably highlighted the seriousness of the talks.

“We believe that Armenia and Azerbaijan have a genuinely historic opportunity to secure enduring peace after more than 30 years of conflict,” Blinken said in brief opening remarks covered by the media until talks continued behind closed doors. Prior to the meeting, Yerevan had also confirmed that it had sent its comments on the text of a bilateral peace agreement to Baku for consideration. Aliyev confirmed receipt in comments following the meeting that he also described as “constructive.”

“Three days ago, we received new responses to our proposals from Armenia. We are elaborating them now,” he told reporters. “At first glance, there is progress in Armenia’s position, but it is not sufficient.”

Indeed, the two sides do remain far apart on certain issues and this has only intensified during the standoff on the Lachin Corridor, a topic that was also discussed during the meeting with Blinken. As I’ve highlighted for well over a year now, the need for reciprocity on customs and passport controls on both the Lachin and Zangezur ‘corridors’ arguably remains the most pressing, something that was also alluded to by Aliyev. Basically, in a nutshell, if there are to be checks on the route from Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan there should be similar for Lachin.

I have also stated that it would be good if Armenia and Azerbaijan established checkpoints on the Armenian-Azerbaijan border in a bilateral manner,” Aliyev said. “We made this suggestion earlier and made it official today. Previously, this suggestion was communicated through unofficial channels. Armenia did not voice any position. They probably need some time to discuss it. But our initial impression is that both Europe and America view this proposal of ours as logical.

“[…] if we are talking about border delimitation, it is impossible to achieve without checkpoints. If we are talking about the opening of communications, of course, checkpoints should be established at both ends of the Zangezur corridor and at the border between Lachin district and Armenia. Today, at the meeting held with the participation of Secretary of State Blinken, I officially put forward this as a proposal. We will wait for a response from Armenia.”

What little else is known is only that Blinken appeared largely satisfied with the outcome of the meeting. “Pleased to hear that the Armenia-Azerbaijan peace process is on track and negotiations between the two sides are continuing,” the Secretary of State tweeted.

“The course of the works around a peace treaty draft between Armenia and Azerbaijan was discussed at the meeting, as well as the unblocking of regional transport infrastructures and delimitation between the two countries in accordance with the agreement reached in Prague,” read the official Armenian statement. “Prime Minister Pashinyan reiterated Armenia’s commitment to achieve the signing of a peace treaty that would truly guarantee lasting peace and stability in the region.

At the same time, Nikol Pashinyan stressed the fact of the illegal blockade of Lachin corridor by Azerbaijan and the resulting humanitarian, environmental and energy crisis in Nagorno Karabakh. The continuity of the peace process between Armenia and Azerbaijan was highlighted.”

Unfortunately, and despite the historic nature of hosting the Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders alongside Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili, any hopes for a constructive public discussion as part of the Munich Security Conference quickly disappeared. Even though it was the first time that all three shared the same stage, the panel on “Moving Mountains: Building Security in the South Caucasus” soon descended into confrontation in no small part because of the moderator, Chair of the Munich Security Conference Christoph Heusgen.

For many, there were already concerns given the catastrophic nature of the last Aliyev and Pashinyan head-to-head in Munich in March 2020, just months before the devastating war over Karabakh that broke out months later. This was why, although some did decry the initial absence of Pashinyan on the panel, many others were privately relieved to see the panel’s announcement list only Aliyev and Garibashvili as representing the South Caucasus. This, incidentally, had been the case last month at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

“Initially, the participation of the Armenian Prime Minister was not envisaged,” said Aliyev before the panel. “His name was not mentioned in the initial proposal given to me. He probably decided to attend last night. I think this is a good development because, finally, some cooperation among the three South Caucasus countries can be started.”

Aliyev also said discussions with Garibashvili on the creation of a “Tbilisi Format” between the sides might be brought up on the panel. “We are also welcoming that. This issue was discussed during my visit to Georgia. The Armenian side is somewhat hesitant about this. But I think it would be fair,” he said.

This idea was also recently supported by the European Union’s Special Representative for the South Caucasus, Toivo Klaar. But if there had been the opportunity to facilitate and encourage a more amenable discussion on security concerns in the region and ways to resolve them, Huesgen instead seemingly goading the participants into confrontation, including by confronting Garibashvili on the situation of imprisoned former Georgian President, Mikheil Saakashvili. By no stretch of the imagination could this be considered on-topic.

Indeed, there is little point in dwelling more on the panel that could have been a historic opportunity to encourage a truly constructive and regional discussion at the level of the three leaders. Meanwhile, and although European Council President Charles Michel had met with both Aliyev and Pashinyan separately, there was also no trilateral meeting, leaving many still uncertain about the future of the hitherto encouraging Brussels format of negotiations. It can only be hoped that the meeting with Blinken was as constructive as is claimed. 

 

 

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Armenian Foreign Minister Visits Turkiye After Earthquake, Rekindles Hopes for Normalisation

Armenian Foreign Minister Visits Turkiye After Earthquake, Rekindles Hopes for Normalisation

Armenian Foreign Minister A © Ararat Mirzoyan and Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu in Ankara, Wednesday, Feb 15, 2023 © Armenia MFA

The Caspian Post last week published my first piece on what can be hoped are real and genuine efforts to accelerate the latest efforts to normalise relations between Yerevan and Ankara following the recent and devastating earthquake in Turkey. During the last attempt to establish diplomatic relations in the late 2000s I covered that process extensively, including working with the BBC, Al Jazeera English, and The Wall Street Journal on various stories. Looks like I’ll now be doing the same throughout 2023.

The arrival in Ankara of Armenian Foreign Minister Ararat Mirzoyan following last week’s devastating Kahramanmaras earthquake was sudden and unexpected. The tragedy on February 6 was the deadliest to hit Turkiye since 1923. At the time of writing, the 7.8-magnitude quake has claimed over 35,000 Turkish lives and an additional 6,000 victims in neighbouring Syria. Naturally, international offers of assistance and messages of condolence have flooded in from all over the world.

 

Including from Armenia.

 

Both Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and President Vahagn Khachaturyan sent their condolences, while humanitarian assistance and a search-and-rescue team were dispatched by Yerevan to assist in the post-disaster relief effort.  

 

“Saddened by the news of the devastating earthquake in Turkiye and Syria that resulted in the loss of so many lives,” Pashinyan tweeted. “Our deepest condolences to the families of the victims […]. Armenia is ready to provide assistance.”

 

[…]

 

Practical steps towards normalizing Armenia-Turkiye relations have been modest up until now. On February 2 last year, commercial flights resumed between Yerevan and Istanbul, while on January 6, 2023, Ankara lifted an effective ban on cargo flights. Eight months ago, Armenia and Turkiye announced that the land border would open for third-country nationals “at the earliest date possible,” but that had not actually happened yet. So, the use of the Margara-Alican border crossing to transport humanitarian assistance this week is at least of some relevance.

 

[…]

 

“The progress to be made in the process of normalization of Armenias relations with Turkiye and Azerbaijan will ensure peace and prosperity in our region,” Cavusoglu said in Ankara. “I specifically want to say from here that if these three countries take sincere steps, we will establish permanent peace in the South Caucasus. Peace in this region is extremely important for economic prosperity.”

The full article can be read on the Caspian Post here. Meanwhile, some, but not all, of my posts on Armenia-Turkey normalisation since the late 2000s can also be found here.

Armenia-Turkey Border opens for Humanitarian Assistance to Earthquake-Hit Adiyaman

Armenia-Turkey Border opens for Humanitarian Assistance to Earthquake-Hit Adiyaman

Armenian Trucks pass over the Armenian-Turkish border (via Twitter)

In what could possibly prove to be a milestone in relations between the Republics of Armenia and Turkey, Yerevan today sent five trucks carrying 100 tons of humanitarian assistance to its neighbour following last week’s devastating earthquake. The aid was destined for the southeastern Turkish city of Adiyaman.

At time of writing, the number of fatalities from the tragedy, which reached a magnitude of 7.8,  has already surpassed 21,000 with over 80,000 injured. A state of emergency in Turkey has been declared.

Crossing from Margara to Alican in Turkey, it was the first time this particular border crossing in Armenia, one of two that have long existed, had been used in over three decades. Some media reported that the last time it had been used was in 1988 when the Turkish Red Crescent sent aid to Armenia following the devastating Spitak earthquake in then Soviet Armenia.

It also follows Yerevan’s decision to send a team of 27 rescue and medical staff earlier in the week and a telephone call between Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan held on 7 February. Pashinyan offered condolences to his Turkish counterpart while Erdoğan welcomed Armenia’s support. 

As almost everyone knows, Armenia and Turkey do not have diplomatic relations and the land border has been closed since the early 1990s because of the war with Azerbaijan over Nagorno Karabakh. Passenger flights  between Yerevan and Istanbul, however, have long existed while Ankara gave the green light for Armenia-Turkey cargo flights to be launched last month.

 Though Armenia has offered earthquake aid to Turkey before, including under the leaderships of Robert Kocharyan and Serzh Sargsyan, the opening of the border, even temporarily, this weekend takes on greater significance and symbolism given renewed efforts to normalise relations since the 2020 Karabakh war between Armenia and Azerbaijan ended.

It was therefore of no surprise to see Armenian and Turkish government officials tweet news of this development, and not least by the two special envoys from both countries appointed for that task, Rubin Rubinyan and Serdar Kılıç. There were already plans to partially open the border for citizens of third countries in the near future anyway.

Though the severity of the earthquake in Turkey should not overshadow the significance of even temporarily opening the land border with Armenia, the move does nonetheless indicate that a long-awaited normalisation of relations between Yerevan and Ankara could be drawing ever closer. Certainly, the delivery of humanitarian assistance was coordinated by both.

Moreover, the move perhaps also serves the purpose of gauging the reaction of the populations of both countries ahead of further progress towards a full opening of the border and the long-awaited establishment of diplomatic relations between the two. For now, the optics of delivering and receiving humanitarian assistance serves Yerevan and Ankara well.

Although there have been delays in the process that started over a year ago, and not least because of disagreements between Armenia and Azerbaijan in their normalisation process, it can only be hoped that it fare better than the ill-fated Zurich Protocols in 2009. Back then, I did a lot fixing and coordinating for the BBC, Al Jazeera English, and the Wall Street Journal.

Some, but not all, of my posts on Armenia-Turkey normalisation can be found here.

 

Toivo Klaar: Georgia an important bridge between Armenia and Azerbaijan

Toivo Klaar: Georgia an important bridge between Armenia and Azerbaijan

EU Special Representative for the South Caucasus Toivo Klaar meeting with Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili in Tbilisi, May 2022 © Official Photo

In an interview with the Georgian Public Broadcaster, the European Union’s Special Representative for the South Caucasus, Toivo Klaar, has stressed the importance of Tbilisi’s role in bridging the divide between its immediate regional neighbours, Armenia and Azerbaijan. This is highly welcomed and not least because some of us have long argued for the emergence of some kind of “Tbilisi Process” given that it would be both logical and practical.

“It is very important that the three countries of the South Caucasus work together and contribute to peace, and here the role of Georgia as a bridge between Armenia and Azerbaijan is very important,” Interfax Azerbaijan quoted Klaar as saying. Indeed, Tbilisi has already played a role in the pursuit of a long-overdue settlement to the Karabakh conflict. In June 2021, Georgia facilitated the return of 15 Armenian detainees held by Baku, for example.

And on 16 July 2022, Georgian Foreign Minister Ilia Darchiashvili hosted his Armenian and Azerbaijani counterparts, Ararat Mirzoyan and Jeyhun Bayramov, for talks in Tbilisi. The Georgian Prime Minister, Irakli Garibashvili, has also played a role in what has appeared to be at times some first steps towards shuttle diplomacy between the sides and once again offered the Georgian capital as a venue or format during this year’s World Economic Forum in Davos.

Sadly, however, while Klaar’s words are welcome, many EU funded meetings still take place outside the South Caucasus, usually in European capitals and mostly in secret, thus inadvertently or purposely limiting participation to a small and arguably unrepresentative group of the ‘usual suspects’ meeting behind ‘closed doors.’ As a result, civil society activity under such conditions has long been unconstructive, unproductive, and definitely ineffective.

Klaar’s words therefore offer some hope that a Tbilisi Platform could change that – and especially if it can nurture a genuine top-down approach from the governments supported by bottom-up civil society and  grassroots initiatives. Moreover, the often politicised nature of previous Track II meetings would also have to change, especially as efforts should be focused only on cross-border cooperation and genuine people-people contact with peace in mind.

On that, I am always reminded of the late Georgi Vanyan’s attempts to do this in the ethnic Azerbaijani village of Tekali close to Georgia’s borders with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

“In this regard, Georgia is geographically very convenient, you can quickly and easily come here from neighbouring countries. Finally, it is logical that three countries located in the same space, in the South Caucasus, should try to find areas of cooperation. For example, in transport, energy, environmental protection and others. I see great potential both now and in the future,” Klaar said.

Of course, Tbilisi has long been a venue for cross-border Track II meetings prior to the COVID 19 pandemic, but it has been slow in resuming such meetings or making them more inclusive. Further, it is vital that it now becomes a venue for Armenian and Azerbaijani officials to meet, with or without their Georgian counterparts. Klaar also noted that the Georgian capital “could still be used for meetings of the highest level in different formats.”

Indeed, and though a little premature for now, but as some have also speculated, Tbilisi would arguably make for an appropriate, relevant, and symbolic venue for the signing of any Armenia-Azerbaijan peace deal when one is on the table. All going well, it can only be hoped that 2023 will prove to be the year that it finally is.

Agenda.ge also carries a report in English on Klaar’s interview.

Georgi Vanyan RIP.

 

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Declassified US Documents summarised on 25th Anniversary of Ter-Petrosyan Resignation

Declassified US Documents summarised on 25th Anniversary of Ter-Petrosyan Resignation

Levon Ter-Petrosyan, Yerevan, Armenia © Onnik James Krikorian 2007

To mark the 25th anniversary of the resignation of Armenia’s first president, Levon Ter-Petrosyan, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty’s Yerevan Bureau on 3 February published a summary of a batch of declassified documents relating to attempts in 1997 to end the conflict with Azerbaijan over Nagorno Karabakh.

Though some allege that the documents have only been declassified now because of the current parallel negotiation platforms established by the European Union, with the support of the United States, and Russia, they appear to have been made public between 2018 and 2021 with the bulk surfacing in 2019.

Nevertheless, this appears to be the first time that any media outlet became aware of their existence, so kudos to RFE/RL for that.

Regardless, as we know, two proposals were eventually on the table – the package and phased or step-by-step approaches. It is believed that Ter-Petrosyan was ready to accept either, though the de facto authorities of Nagorno Karabakh were not. Moreover, and leading to his resignation, there was also severe disagreement and dissent within his inner circle.

Some still maintain that Ter-Petrosyan stepped down to avoid internal unrest at best or something akin to civil war at worst.

“If I accepted the decision to resign, believe me, it means that I considered the alternative more dangerous for our state,” he said.

 

In his 4-minute resignation speech, Ter-Petrosyan did not clarify who these famous forces are, why and how they made such a demand to the President. He hinted that time will give the answers to those questions.

 

Now, declassified documents are appearing in the archives of the United States State Department, which testify not only to Armenian internal political differences, but also to the demands made by the international community behind closed doors.

There’s a lot to unpack in the documents that RFE/RL summarises which I’ll do if time permits as an update to this post or as a separate one, but until then some brief excerpts with the links to the full versions below. Suffice to say, there’s a lot we knew that can be considered pretty much confirmed, but also an unnerving sense of deja vu when compared to the situation today.

Of course, Armenia is now a lot weaker than it was in 1997 and Nagorno Karabakh untenable as any sustainable entity without a peace deal. However, that is precisely the point. Arguably, Ter-Petrosyan rightly saw the dark clouds looming on the horizon while others did not or simply convinced themselves otherwise. 

Certainly, the warning signs remain, and became particularly noticeable once Pashinyan took power in the 2018 “Velvet Revolution.” And while there were signs that geopolitics started to influence the OSCE Minsk Group even in 1997, new geopolitical rivalry between the West and Russia following last year’s invasion of Ukraine risks upsetting any new hopes for peace.

Anyway, some excerpts below with links. Bold for emphasis my own.

DEPUTY SECRETARY’S MEETING WITH ARMENIAN FOREIGN MINISTER ARZOUMANYAN
02/28/97

 

The Deputy Secretary, and later S/NIS Ambassador Collins, met with Armenian FM Arzoumanyan February 28. The Deputy Secretary hoped that with three strong countries in the chair, we could make progress on resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict peace this year. He sought Arzoumanyan’s views on next steps. Arzoumanyan asserted that the bilateral channel was no longer usable and proposed a “three plus three” format, but backtracked quickly when the Deputy Secretary and Amb. Collins objected; he fell back to a position of waiting to see whether the Azerbaijanis could come up with peace proposals. Arzoumanyan sought U.S. help in opening the Turkish-Armenian border; he was concerned that plans for regional transportation links might bypass Armenia. The Deputy Secretary declared U.S. willingness to use our good offices to help Armenia and Turkey improve relations. End Summary

 

[…] 

 

6. Arzoumanyan backtracked. He stressed the need for an Azerbaijani interlocutor who had a “100 percent mandate” from Aliyev, “But shuttling around to European capitals to exchange general ideas is no longer acceptable.” He noted that the Armenian MFA would be more active on NK under his stewardship, and that he was ready to meet “my good friend” Azerbaijani FM Hasanov to discuss the issue. Later, with Collins, Arzoumanyan said that an Azerbaijani paper would help revitalise the bilateral channel; Yerevan could consult closely with Stepanakert on it.

 

7. Arzoumanyan did not, however, rule out a renewal of the demands that NK participate. In the Collins meeting he said the NK Armenians, having occupied so much of Azerbaijan’s territory, felt it was up to Azerbaijan to come to them and talk before they would compromise. In Armenia, too, it was felt that if Azerbaijan considers NK to be part of itself and the NK Armenians to be rebellious Azerbaijani citizens, Azerbaijan should sit down and talk with them, as governments did all over the world.

 

[…]

 

14. Arzoumanyan said that although Armenia could work with the Russian paper, it put Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity first, and “If you show that to Robert (Kocharyan), he’ll throw the whole paper out. In engaging NK, you must be careful not to give them things immediately that they will reject; you must save them, until later.” He suggested that the best elements with which to start off involved the security of NK.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-23de-08db0559d6f7.pdf

MEETING BETWEEN PRESIDENTS BORIS YELTSIN AND BILL CLINTON, 1997

 

YEL: Many questions have been resolved. We also managed to resolve the Transdniester problem in Moldova after I invited the , parties to come to Moscow. We are also working in the Minsk conference process, with our troika. I ask you to be more energetic on Nagorno-Karabakh.

 

POTUS: I agree with that. We’ve discussed this many times. We finally have a process in place. You and I and Chirac need to persevere. Settling Nagorno-Karabakh would solve a lot of problems today and save us from a number of problems in the future.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-326a-08db055c3133.pdf

RUSSIAN FM PRIMAKOV, MAY 1, 1997, MFA GUEST HOUSE, MOSCOW

 

2. Summary: At a hastily summoned meeting of Minsk Process co-chairs during Secretary Albright’s visit to Moscow, Russian FM Primakov called for written U.S. and French comments to the 21-point Russian peace plan for Nagorno-Karabakh. He hoped to make the 21-point plan, heretofore a strictly Russian document, into a joint co-chair plan and the basis for their approach to the Armenians and Azerbaijanis, and asked for French and U.S. suggestions. Primakov also emphasised that the co-chairs will have to apply pressure to the parties to secure acceptance of any peace plan. The Secretary sought French and Russian comments on the recent U.S. paper on Nagorno Karabakh. The three co-chairs agreed to meet again in Washington around the middle of May. They also agreed to treat both the Russian paper and the U.S. interim agreement proposal on an equal basis. They agreed to look toward a co-chairmanship trip to the region as soon as possible after reaching agreement on a text. End Summary.

 

8. Saying that he did not intend to denigrate the U.S. paper, Primakov nevertheless argued against seeking an interim agreement. “Without the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and a determination of Nagorno-Karabakh’s status, we will not get any agreement,” he asserted. Primakov urged the co-chairs to come to closure on the outlines of a settlement and on their approach to the parties. Primakov said the co-chairs should stop referring to an “American” and a “Russian” plan. They both needed to be joint. It is important to arrange as soon as possible a trip to the Caucasus by the co-chairs to present a plan, and impose it. The cease-fire, paradoxically, has caused the Armenians and Azeris to be complacent and increasingly disinclined to compromise. The parties, Primakov emphasised, must be shown that their stubbornness will produce unwelcome consequences. […].

 

12. Primakov noted that time was working against Yerevan. While it stagnated, Azerbaijan was becoming rich. […] Paradoxically this made the parties less eager for compromise. Primakov observed that he had been brought up in the Caucasus and knew their peoples. Pressure was needed.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/03/08550000-0a00-0242-54e9-08db05f6c0b6.pdf

SUBJECT: SECRETARY’S CONVERSATION WITH TURKISH MFA UNDERSECRETARY OYMEN
05/02/97


5. Oymen continued that if the Armenians could be convinced to start evacuating the occupied territories in Azerbaijan and let the refugees return, Turkey would be able to open roads and railroads. Oymen said that if Ivanov felt Moscow could do something, he thought it worth trying. Russian Foreign Minister Primakov would visit Ankara in June. If the U.S. could pressure the Russians and Armenians, it could be possible to move ahead. 

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/03/006c0000-0aff-0242-8de4-08db05f72840.pdf

OSCE MINSK CONFERENCE CO-CHAIRS PRESENT COMPREHENSIVE SETTLEMENT PLAN TO TER-PETROSSIAN, JUNE 1997

 

3. Ter-Petrossian began by welcoming the delegation and noting that he had been “waiting a long time” for such a visit. He stated that he hoped the co-chairs brought good news, as there had been almost no progress in the negotiations on Karabakh for more than a year. The only thing we have is the cease-fire which is still holding, he commented. Referring to the recent border incidents on the Armenian-Azeri border, Ter-Petrossian assured the delegation that these incidents were not serious. President Aliyev had also said they were not serious, and since the two rarely agreed on anything, in this case it must be true, Ter-Petrossian quipped. He stressed the importance of maintaining the cease-fire; “The rest depends on what you’ve decided,” he said. 

 

[…]

 

7. Russian Ambassador Lozinsky similarly stressed co-chair unity. Everything mentioned by the other co-chairs is supported by Russia, he emphasised. In the past, there was a tendency to forum-shop, but now that three interested Minsk Group members were leading the negotiating effort, there was a new impetus to the process. The co-chairs had drafted a comprehensive agreement, which would be the basis for the united approach.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/006c0000-0aff-0242-d64b-08db055c2604.pdf

MEMCON OF SECRETARY ALBRIGHT/RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER PRIMAKOV DINNER AT THE G-8 DENVER SUMMIT, BUCKHORN EXCHANGE, JUNE 19, 1997

 

Primakov: I would like to open our discussions first and foremost with a very serious problem — Nagorno-Karabakh. We are concerned, I’m afraid, all three sides responding to us officially and rejecting everything. The Armenians stepped back from their previous position. This may be a big negative in that it reflects how they feel about us being together — the U.S. & Russia. I think we should act because if we don’t, we will be nothing more than paper tigers.

 

 Talbott: I saw the text of the three Presidents regarding N-K.

 

Primakov: Yes, I saw it also, and showed it to Yeltsin and I think it is a plan of great importance. However, we should do something else. I think we should agree on a course of action. This should be confidential, but has to show teeth. You, the U.S., can do something with the Azeris vis-a-vis the oil weapon. You can say something like this: you will not encourage your companies to help on oil if things are not settled. With respect to Armenia, we could use the “weapons weapon.” In other words, Russia could give them weapons while the U.S. could play the oil thing.

 

Naturally, we have to do something on both sides. The Armenians did not even try to analyze our proposal — they only went for full N-K independence. The Azeris insisted on autonomy for N-K, but only in Azerbaijan. It was what I call a rigid vertical solution. They made a definite step backward with respect to the 21-point document that we put together for them. Ter-Petrosian said to me earlier in my discussions with him that this could be a good basis for a solution and now he has backed off.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-6a76-08db055c261c.pdf

TALBOTT—PRIMAKOV OCTOBER 8, 1997, PRIMAKOV’S OFFICE, RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY…. MEMCON

 

22. The Deputy Secretary then asked about the Minister’s trip to Baku. Primakov said that he got back very late. He had gone to Baku to push the Azerbaijanis to respond to the Minsk Group. He had a commitment from the Aliyev to provide his proposals in written form. Primakov commented that Aliyev is basically pointed in the right direction. The group around him – ForMin Hasanov and Presidential Advisor Qualazade – want to break out of the Minsk Group framework. Primakov expects to get an answer from Yerevan today (Wednesday). That will cover the problem with Stepanakert (Primakov noted in a general back and forth that the problem in Baku involved, among other matters, efforts by Hasanov to move the issue of Shusha, to part one of the Minsk Group draft). Primakov continued that there had been some good news from the Armenian side when Ter-Petrossian gave a press conference September 30 (Check Date). It was a good statement, Primakov said, that the status quo is not good for anyone, that Karabakh will not get independence from Azerbaijan or annexation to Armenia, that there is no package solution, and that we will have to proceed step by step. Primakov said the thought this was a courageous statement. It would be a help if the U.S. would encourage the diaspora to be more supportive.

 

24. The Deputy Secretary acknowledged the problem of difficult pressure on Ter Petrossian, including from outside. He also said that he shared Primakov’s positive assessment of Ter Petrossian’s recent public statements. […] Primakov commented that if we can get step one of the Minsk Project, that will break the ties to Iran and will lift blockades at the Turkish border. […] He thought sooner or later it was going to come down to having to push Nagorno-Karabakh as the party to the process with the most unacceptable, unworkable positions.

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-a799-08db055c3054.pdf

SUBJECT: ACTING SECRETARY TALBOTT’S CONVERSATION WITH FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTRY POLITICAL DIRECTOR JACQUES BLOT (OCTOBER 1997)

 

7. Blot said Ter Petrossian told Chirac there was no possibility of a new confrontation; Now was the time for a compromise and Armenia was ready to negotiate a solution. According to Ter Petrossian, there was no possibility of economic development without peace and it was in Armenia’s interest to reach an agreement. It was necessary to convince Nagorno Karabakh and there would have to be more guarantees. […]

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-b232-08db055c30f3.pdf

SUBJECT: DEPUTY SECRETARY’S MEETING WITH FRENCH POLITICAL DIRECTOR JACQUES BLOT, JANUARY 8, 1998

 

5. The discussion then turned to NAGORNO-KARABAKH. Blot reported that during Armenian PM Kocharian’s recent visit to Paris the French perceived no real change his position and no prospect for a real start to negotiations. Blot wondered whether PM KOCHARIAN and President Ter-Petrossian really have different positions, or whether perhaps they have informally agreed that Ter-Petrossian will emphasize one message for us while KOCHARIAN will EMPHASIZE another for Nagorno-Karabakh. The French do not see any real means of pressure on NAGORNO-KARABAKH: the Russians are informally allied with the Armenians and the U.S. and France are constrained by domestic political sensitivities from the diaspora. Therefore, the best approach may be to propose additional incentives, both in economic and security areas, to make the package that is currently on the table more attractive to Nagorno-Karabakh. The Deputy Secretary agreed there is a real possibility that Ter-Petrossian and Kocharian could close their positions in a way we would not want. Pascoe noted that while the Armenian-American community still strongly supports Nagorno-Karabakh, it seems to be increasingly aware that time is not on Armenia’s or Nagorno-Karabakh’ s side.

 

6. The Deputy Secretary asked for clarification: Did Blot believe we should concentrate on adding incentives for Nagorno-Karabakh to our step-by-step proposal or open the way to a comprehensive proposal? Blot responded that we had to stay firm on the step-by-step approach, but we could be flexible on the timing of the discussions on the two parts. But there could be no link holding implementation of one hostage to the other. If agreement could be reached within six months on the cessation of the armed conflict, that phase could proceed to implementation while negotiations continued on status.

 

7. […] Blot replied that, frankly, he thought Russia viewed the Nagorno-Karabakh issue more in the context of its relations with the United States than with Armenia. In his view, the Russians believe our overall strategy in this part of the world is to reduce Russian influence, and therefore they would be seeking above all to consolidate and protect that influence. Indeed, Blot felt that the Russians perceive the U.S. proposal for an East-West energy corridor from central Asia as a new attempt to isolate Russia, and that this has spilled over into a deterioration of the’climate within which the MINSK Group works. To head this off, he suggested that he, the Deputy Secretary, and Russian Deputy FM Pastukhov discuss not only NAGORNO-KARABAKH, but general policy toward the Caucusus in their next MEETING.

 

8. The Deputy Secretary replied that we are aware that the Russians are suspicious of our intentions, particularly regarding energy development in Central Asia. However, it is by no means our policy to exclude Russia from energy development. The one country we seek to isolate in this region is Iran. […]

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/006c0000-0aff-0242-ce2e-08db055c256e.pdf

January  1998
SUBJECT: MEETINGS WITH PRIMAKOV IN SWEDEN

 

YMP: Okay, start in Paris if you like. But, once you have flown all the way across the Atlantic you are only a couple of hours from Stepanakert. You might as well keep going. You really should. We are doing everything we can to support President Ter-Petrosslan. I have sent him Ietters and spoken with him by telephone to give him the message that we think he did something smart and courageous when he wrote his article endorsing a package settlement. But, you know, he has very serious opposition. We are trying to support him. Aliyev knows this and has not problem, but the N-K Armenians are a big problem. If the Conference Co-Chairs representing the U.S., France and Russia, were to come to Stepanakert they would come as the representative of three, well I would say, three very serious countries. It would have some effect. It would indicate that if they oppose a peace settlement they are flouting the will of the entire world.

 

[…]

 

ST: […] With regard to Nagorno-Karabakh, the Conference Co-Chairs will meet in Paris in early February. You should send Boris Pastukhov there armed with all of the arguments you can muster for having the Co-Chairs visit Stepanakert. I am ready to go back, but only if I am convinced it will do some good. Perhaps Pastukhov did not report to you all the details of our last visit when Ghoukasian compared the cochairs to the notorious “troikas” durtng Stalin’s purges and accused of us of plotting the elimination of the N-K Armenians. I’m in no great hurry to be treated to another reception like that. We agree that we’ve got to support Ter-Petrossian. We understand that there is a real struggle going on between Ter-Petrossian and Kocharian right now.

 

YMP: Yes, I can tell you that Kocharlan wants to be President of Armenia. Look, the N-K Armenians are an obstacle. Let’s not beat about the bush about that. But what can we do? I have been for a package agreement all along. Stepanakert was against it. Then we I proposed a step-by-step approach both Baku and Stepanakert were opposed. 

Link: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/02/08550000-0a00-0242-9da8-08db055c2589.pdf

SUBJECT: NAGORNO-KARABAKH: ACTING SECRETARY’S MEETING WITH ARMENIAN PRESIDENTIAL ADVISOR LIBARIDIAN

 

3. The Acting Secretary led off, after courtesies, by saying the U.S. counted on Armenia to have intense exchanges with the NK Armenians. Delivering them would be the toughest task in achieving peace. Libaridian replied that when “we have a paper we can accept” (from the Co-Chairs), “Ter-Petrossian will fight for it in Yerevan, including publicly, and he will fight for it in Stepanakert.”

 

[…]

 

5. In the second of two long meetings with the NK leadership, Libaridian continued, the Armenians had brought the NK leadership to the point of saying, “Maybe we don’t need to discuss status now.” Libaridian cautioned, however, that reaching an agreement would not be easy. He said he was encouraged by some of the things Aliyev had said during his U.S. visit — which seemed to indicate Azerbaijan was on board with the step-by-step approach — while excoriating Aliyev’s breaches of the process’ confidentiality. In a fresh Armenian interpretation of the OSCE Lisbon Summit, Libaridian suggested that the international community’s public endorsement of Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity may have given Aliyev political cover for putting off dealing with status now in the Minsk process.

 

6. Talbott said he was encouraged by Libaridian’s analysis and positive interpretation of Aliyev’s visit. We had worked hard to get Aliyev to be forthcoming in public. Talbott continued that after meeting the NK leadership, he had a palpable sense of their admirable qualities, but no illusions about how tough a job the Armenians would have in making them understand that this process is about the art of the possible. He asked Libaridian for his thoughts on how to proceed. Libaridian, who had just come from a meeting with Rep. Gilman and other representatives, stressed the role of post-conflict assistance, as well as the importance of how it was presented. The NK Armenians would react badly if assistance appeared to them as a bribe for compromise; but they should be made to realize that a solution will help in the financing of reconstruction.

 

[…]

 

14. Talbott concluded by stressing the interest with which President Clinton followed the NK issue, seeing it as part of the larger strategic and economic puzzle. The President, he said, stresses the need to make Armenia part of the coming boom in the region — a desire Talbott seconded, having choppered over the vast, dead Nairit synthetic rubber factory. It was, he said, an advertisement for what is not happening and what could happen. But nothing will happen without peace.

 LINK: https://docs.rferl.org/hy-AM/2023/02/03/006c0000-0aff-0242-7d79-08db05fa90f6.pdf

As I said, there’s a lot to go through in these documents, but it is interesting to see how many of the same issues have surfaced again today when time is once again not on Armenia or Karabakh’s side, although, to be frank, it never was. Moreover, some argue, Ter-Petrosyan’s acceptance of the step-by-step approach was perhaps the last chance for peace prior to today.

For 28 years, however, both the Armenian government and even the main civil society players ignored this reality and marginalised or ostracised anyone that sought to remind them of Ter-Petrosyan’s warnings. Incidentally, many also did the same with any mention of the OSCE Minsk Group’s Madrid Principles too or subsequent variations on that basic framework.

After the resignation of the first president, for more than two decades, all three leaders of Armenia adopted the policy of maintaining the status quo. All three accused Ter-Petrosyan of defeatism and betrayal at different stages of their rule,” RFE/RL concludes. Though Baku has at times rejected certain peace proposals in the past, many have also implied that Kocharyan, Sargsyan, and Pashinyan have too, effectively making the 2020 Karabakh war inevitable. 

 You can read RFE/RL’s summary in Armenian here. It is also available in Russian here.  

 

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